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		<title>By: Theresa</title>
		<link>http://www.radiantveracity.com/2009/10/the-pink-elephant-in-the-room/comment-page-1/#comment-972</link>
		<dc:creator>Theresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stephanie:

I remember my mother coming home from an exceptionally bad day at work when I was about 10 years old. When I asked her what was wrong, it had to do with her female, not-so-nice boss. At the end of her rant, I asked, &quot;why does she act that way?&quot; To this day, my mother&#039;s response has been stuck in my head. &quot;Because people have to have power somewhere in their lives. If they don&#039;t have it at home, they have to have it at work.&quot;

My mother recounted meeting this woman&#039;s husband at a company holiday party, and when said boss was in his presence, she was a mouse. In my early career, I worked for a very similar person, and I remembered my mother&#039;s words. It didn&#039;t make it any more pleasant to deal with, but in some way, it made total sense. What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephanie:</p>
<p>I remember my mother coming home from an exceptionally bad day at work when I was about 10 years old. When I asked her what was wrong, it had to do with her female, not-so-nice boss. At the end of her rant, I asked, &#8220;why does she act that way?&#8221; To this day, my mother&#8217;s response has been stuck in my head. &#8220;Because people have to have power somewhere in their lives. If they don&#8217;t have it at home, they have to have it at work.&#8221;</p>
<p>My mother recounted meeting this woman&#8217;s husband at a company holiday party, and when said boss was in his presence, she was a mouse. In my early career, I worked for a very similar person, and I remembered my mother&#8217;s words. It didn&#8217;t make it any more pleasant to deal with, but in some way, it made total sense. What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie A. Lloyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie A. Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting commentary, Terry. When I read the article I did not pick up on any reference to race or religion; I thought the discussion was strictly about women. 

Thanks for your comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting commentary, Terry. When I read the article I did not pick up on any reference to race or religion; I thought the discussion was strictly about women. </p>
<p>Thanks for your comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie A. Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.radiantveracity.com/2009/10/the-pink-elephant-in-the-room/comment-page-1/#comment-970</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie A. Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Managers like that can&#039;t keep employees around for obvious reasons. If a manager has consistently high turnover in their group, senior leadership should be looking in to that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Managers like that can&#8217;t keep employees around for obvious reasons. If a manager has consistently high turnover in their group, senior leadership should be looking in to that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a workplace issue;  this is not a woman-to-woman or Hispanic-to-Hispanic or WASP-male-to-WASP-male issue.  There are good people and bad people.  There are good managers and bad managers.  Why is this specific to women... “The time has come for us to really deal with this relationship women have to women”   Why isn’t the question more along the lines of “…really deal with the relationship people have to people”?  Is there a women-to-women club rule that mandates women are to be nice to each other but not nice to men?  

If the “time has come for us to really deal with this …” comment had been phrased as WASP-male to WASP-male,  the universe would have been up in arms demanding sensitivity training and god only knows what else.

Gender or ethnicity does not make a person a better manager nor does that make them a worse manager.  For each black female or white female or black male or white male bullying manager,  there are examples of excellent managers.  We are individuals.  Some are good.  Some,  not so good.

The question should be,  Does this person have talent?  Can I help develop that talent?  Who has the best potential to do the job and lead the team( group, division, etc)?

Klaus’ question, Is this a woman?  If yes,  then I should be nice.

The wrong question.  
The wrong focus.  

The workplace is poorer for Klaus’s narrow-minded focus. 

Look for the content of their character, not to see if they are in an exclusive club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a workplace issue;  this is not a woman-to-woman or Hispanic-to-Hispanic or WASP-male-to-WASP-male issue.  There are good people and bad people.  There are good managers and bad managers.  Why is this specific to women&#8230; “The time has come for us to really deal with this relationship women have to women”   Why isn’t the question more along the lines of “…really deal with the relationship people have to people”?  Is there a women-to-women club rule that mandates women are to be nice to each other but not nice to men?  </p>
<p>If the “time has come for us to really deal with this …” comment had been phrased as WASP-male to WASP-male,  the universe would have been up in arms demanding sensitivity training and god only knows what else.</p>
<p>Gender or ethnicity does not make a person a better manager nor does that make them a worse manager.  For each black female or white female or black male or white male bullying manager,  there are examples of excellent managers.  We are individuals.  Some are good.  Some,  not so good.</p>
<p>The question should be,  Does this person have talent?  Can I help develop that talent?  Who has the best potential to do the job and lead the team( group, division, etc)?</p>
<p>Klaus’ question, Is this a woman?  If yes,  then I should be nice.</p>
<p>The wrong question.<br />
The wrong focus.  </p>
<p>The workplace is poorer for Klaus’s narrow-minded focus. </p>
<p>Look for the content of their character, not to see if they are in an exclusive club.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Perlman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Perlman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had one female supervisor in particular who constantly belittled and bullied me in front of coworkers and people I supervised. She was like this from day one. I never could figure out why she treated me this way, maybe it was because I let her. Anyway, I ended leaving the job after 3 months.  The next person to take the position stayed for a little over a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had one female supervisor in particular who constantly belittled and bullied me in front of coworkers and people I supervised. She was like this from day one. I never could figure out why she treated me this way, maybe it was because I let her. Anyway, I ended leaving the job after 3 months.  The next person to take the position stayed for a little over a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie A. Lloyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie A. Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL... “When a woman acts like a man, why can’t she act like a nice man?&quot;

Amen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230; “When a woman acts like a man, why can’t she act like a nice man?&#8221;</p>
<p>Amen!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie A. Lloyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie A. Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting! So there are some stereotypes going on here then.

Also sounds like some insecurities and self-esteem issues, to me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting! So there are some stereotypes going on here then.</p>
<p>Also sounds like some insecurities and self-esteem issues, to me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: raymundmitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>raymundmitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just asked a similar question on twitter - In business, &quot;When a woman acts like a man, why can&#039;t she act like a nice man?&quot; Whose fault is that, the woman&#039;s or the man&#039;s?  
It seems that women in the workplace have come of age and some of them managed to pick up all of the worst behaviors of their &quot;male oppressors&quot;.  Stephanie, the only way to prevent this from becoming epidemic is to do what you did: call out the bad behavior when you are the victim and make sure that your own performance is wrapped tight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just asked a similar question on twitter &#8211; In business, &#8220;When a woman acts like a man, why can&#8217;t she act like a nice man?&#8221; Whose fault is that, the woman&#8217;s or the man&#8217;s?<br />
It seems that women in the workplace have come of age and some of them managed to pick up all of the worst behaviors of their &#8220;male oppressors&#8221;.  Stephanie, the only way to prevent this from becoming epidemic is to do what you did: call out the bad behavior when you are the victim and make sure that your own performance is wrapped tight.</p>
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